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		<title>Comment on some more comments on scientist by Zacharias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zacharias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I am satisfied. :) 

And I&#039;m glad that you believe that God cannot be known through material senses, this is right in line with the Orthodox distinction between God&#039;s knowable &#039;Energies&#039; and his completely unknowable &#039;Essence.&quot;

Thanks for making an intelligent counter-argument!

And have a good day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I am satisfied. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m glad that you believe that God cannot be known through material senses, this is right in line with the Orthodox distinction between God&#8217;s knowable &#8216;Energies&#8217; and his completely unknowable &#8216;Essence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for making an intelligent counter-argument!</p>
<p>And have a good day!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by rangadevi2</title>
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		<dc:creator>rangadevi2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Madhavi,

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Madhavi,</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on some more comments on scientist by rangadevi2</title>
		<link>http://doyoulisten.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/some-comments/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>rangadevi2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Zacharias, 

Thank you for visiting my blog and making a comment regarding which.

I had no empirical knowledge of your existence. Then you communicated with me. Now I know of your existence. In the same way God has communicated with us throughout the ages. But do we listen? Hence the name of my blog :-)

By definition God is not knowable via material senses. Hence one name for Krsna is Adoksaja, “One who is beyond sense perception”, hence not amenable to empirical method.

He is known through His communications. We can only know Him as He reveals Himself.

“I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I am unborn and infallible.” Bhagavad-gita 7.25

I know that you believe in God, so do not take this in any negative way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Zacharias, </p>
<p>Thank you for visiting my blog and making a comment regarding which.</p>
<p>I had no empirical knowledge of your existence. Then you communicated with me. Now I know of your existence. In the same way God has communicated with us throughout the ages. But do we listen? Hence the name of my blog <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>By definition God is not knowable via material senses. Hence one name for Krsna is Adoksaja, “One who is beyond sense perception”, hence not amenable to empirical method.</p>
<p>He is known through His communications. We can only know Him as He reveals Himself.</p>
<p>“I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I am unborn and infallible.” Bhagavad-gita 7.25</p>
<p>I know that you believe in God, so do not take this in any negative way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on some more comments on scientist by Zacharias</title>
		<link>http://doyoulisten.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/some-comments/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Zacharias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to discredit your post or anything, but I noticed a glaring fallacy in it.

It&#039;s called &#039;begging the question&#039; and is when you try to prove something using that something as the proof.

You mention how science cannot prove anything about reality in the absolute, that it only has theories, but then you lean on an as-of-yet empirically unprovable God to try to prove things about reality...


Granted, I too believe in God, but I&#039;m also a philosophy major and things like that bug me :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to discredit your post or anything, but I noticed a glaring fallacy in it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called &#8216;begging the question&#8217; and is when you try to prove something using that something as the proof.</p>
<p>You mention how science cannot prove anything about reality in the absolute, that it only has theories, but then you lean on an as-of-yet empirically unprovable God to try to prove things about reality&#8230;</p>
<p>Granted, I too believe in God, but I&#8217;m also a philosophy major and things like that bug me <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on SCIENCE:TRUTH AND FICTION by GodKillzYou</title>
		<link>http://doyoulisten.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/sciencetruth-and-fiction/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>GodKillzYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems to be based largely on the argument from ignorance. Because we don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;yet&lt;/i&gt; understand something, therefore God did it.

The trend seems to hint at naturalistic causes for life&#039;s existence. God used to cause lightening, God used to cause earthquakes, God used to cause disease, God used to cause all sorts of natural things... until we figured out what causes them - through the use of science.

The odds of there being some invisible man out there bringing things into being keeps getting smaller and smaller.

Also, I&#039;m not sure that a lack of proof is a good argument to use when no one can even say what a soul is, where it is, or what it does. That we&#039;re just supposed to accept it with faith.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Nobel prize-winning physicist Eugene Wigner has shown that the probability of the existence of a self-duplicating unit is zero. Since the ability to reproduce is one of the fundamental characteristics of all living organisms, Wigner concludes that our present understanding of physics and chemistry does not enable us to explain the phenomenon of life.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is actually an &lt;i&gt;argument from authority&lt;/i&gt;... because he is a Nobel prize-winning physicist means he is correct? Being a physicist does not mean he is an evolutionary biologist. How is he qualified to make that statement?

Not only this, but the document that these quotes come from say that there is life on the sun and the moon! 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Srila Prabhupada: Even on the sun and moon there are living entities. What is the opinion of the scientists?

Dr. Singh: They say there is no life there.

Srila Prabhupada: That is nonsense. There is life there.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scribd.com/doc/1732650/Life-Comes-From-Life&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Complete text here&lt;/a&gt;.

What type of scientific authority is going to make claims like that?

I would just conclude with a statement from Carl Sagan...

&quot;Science delivers the goods.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to be based largely on the argument from ignorance. Because we don&#8217;t <i>yet</i> understand something, therefore God did it.</p>
<p>The trend seems to hint at naturalistic causes for life&#8217;s existence. God used to cause lightening, God used to cause earthquakes, God used to cause disease, God used to cause all sorts of natural things&#8230; until we figured out what causes them &#8211; through the use of science.</p>
<p>The odds of there being some invisible man out there bringing things into being keeps getting smaller and smaller.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m not sure that a lack of proof is a good argument to use when no one can even say what a soul is, where it is, or what it does. That we&#8217;re just supposed to accept it with faith.</p>
<blockquote><p>Nobel prize-winning physicist Eugene Wigner has shown that the probability of the existence of a self-duplicating unit is zero. Since the ability to reproduce is one of the fundamental characteristics of all living organisms, Wigner concludes that our present understanding of physics and chemistry does not enable us to explain the phenomenon of life.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is actually an <i>argument from authority</i>&#8230; because he is a Nobel prize-winning physicist means he is correct? Being a physicist does not mean he is an evolutionary biologist. How is he qualified to make that statement?</p>
<p>Not only this, but the document that these quotes come from say that there is life on the sun and the moon! </p>
<blockquote><p>Srila Prabhupada: Even on the sun and moon there are living entities. What is the opinion of the scientists?</p>
<p>Dr. Singh: They say there is no life there.</p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada: That is nonsense. There is life there.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/1732650/Life-Comes-From-Life" rel="nofollow">Complete text here</a>.</p>
<p>What type of scientific authority is going to make claims like that?</p>
<p>I would just conclude with a statement from Carl Sagan&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Science delivers the goods.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Madhavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madhavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it doesnt seem like english is your fifth language. you write well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it doesnt seem like english is your fifth language. you write well.</p>
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